>>Biggest shame for Germany since Hitler, though he at least had the decency to commit suicide (even though a bit late).
>'Biggest shame for Germany since Hitler, though he at least had the decency to commit suicide (even though a bit late). '' HAHAHAHA Good joke...but c'mon...they're a good band, they have nice songs ^^
>>I was not joking.
>I am sure I could spend ten minutes on the Internet and find a hundred things about Germany that are more shameful than Tokio Hotel ... the new anti-Moslem trend for a start . They may not be the best band in the world but at least they represent Germany in a positive way and are not spreading hate or prejudice. If you dont like the band, what are you doing here?
>>"they represent Germany in a positive way" lmao TH represents everything what's wrong with the german culture nowadays.
>Well they say that a creative is not always appreciated in his own country .... I see you are from Germany, so I have to defer to you on your opinion on German culture. However, I stand by what I said about TH representing Germany in a positive way. They have sparked an interest in the German language and smashed German stereotypes that were old-fashioned and untrue. :]
>>Creative? They aren't more creative than Britney Spears or Justin Bieber, which means not at all. I'm sure they don't even write their own music (except for lyrics maybe). They're just a cheap product of the music industry. And which German stereotypes are you refering to? Oh and "interest in the german language": It's not like there aren't other german-speaking bands popular outside Germany or even Europe. Rammstein for example. I don't like Rammstein much, but at least they are real artists and musicians with their own style, not just a cheap product of some money-grubbing old crocks.
>they may seem as "a cheap product of the music industry" for you now, because they have fucked up management and producers now (same with public relations), but it doesn't mean they're not talented or creative. They're just spoiled a bit at the moment by idiotic decisions of "bosses" and that's why it looks like that
>>Yeah of course it only looks like that. Keep living in your fantasy world. LOL
>That was a really "smart" and "grown up" argument.
>Mmm, the only music we both like is Beethoven, so we have little in common and obviously view music from different perspectives. Tokio Hotel are four guys living their dream of being in a band... good for them! Fans are not as deluded as you like to believe .. we KNOW it's a fantasy (for the band as well as for us). Not everyone has to be a heavyweight musician :], Mmm, the only music we both like is Beethoven, so we have little in common and obviously view music from different perspectives. Tokio Hotel are four guys living their dream of being in a band... good for them! Fans are not as deluded as you like to believe .. we KNOW it's a fantasy (for the band as well as for us). Not everyone has to be a heavyweight musician :]
>Rammstein sind doch noch untalentierter als Tokio Hotel , und das muss man erstmal schaffen . Außerdem , wer bitte schön denkt ernsthaft das die Deutschland in einer positiven Art und Weise repräsentieren ?
>>Also den ersten Satz lass ich mal unkommentiert, kann nicht ernstgemeint sein (du hasst Rammstein wohl einfach nur und übertreibst daher). Naja, was heißt positiv? Auf jeden Fall positiver als jegliche Popscheiße. Immerhin sind es keine Marionetten der Musikindustrie und sie ziehen ihr eigenes Ding durch.
>Da hast du allerdings recht , Tokio Hotel sind besser als die Pop Scheiße , das glaubst du doch selber nicht . TH sind unglaublich untalentiert und werden nur noch von diversen ach so bösen Rappern und Rammstein übertroffen . Und ja , das mit Rammstein meine ich ernst , diese Stimme und das rumgeschreddere auf den Gitarren kann man nicht ertragen .
>>irgendwie versteh ich grad kein Wort bis auf den letzten Satz. Vielleicht mal weniger kiffen?? Mit dem "positiver als Popscheiße" meinte ich Rammstein. Naja und wie gesagt, ob man den Stil von Rammstein nun mag oder nicht, aber es ist jedenfalls ne authentische Band die ihr eigenes Ding macht und der kein billiges Image aufgedrückt wurde.
>I could've listened to this band long ago. TERRIBLE MISTAKE I MADE. Now I'm in love!
>>No surprise, you're gay.
>Tokio hotel ROCKS!!
>>"Tokio hotel ROCKS!!" That's an oxymoron